[Sonitus]

Howdy!

I'm new to this forum, but I've been checking rlslog daily for about a year or so.

Now to the topic:
In Sweden the so called IPRED law will soon be taking effect, I'm sure most of the users here know what that's all about.
Therefore I'm hunting for an ip-scrambler. I guess at least some users here will have good knowledge in that area

So, I'd appreciate any thought on this matter. Which one do you find is the best one?

Cheers,
Sonitus

[flamesizzle]

First of all. Welcome to the forums If you plan on sticking around I recommend introducing yourself in the "Introduction" section of the forum.

To be honest I'm not that well informed when it comes to those programs. But if one of the uber dudes could fill us in on what they do... With the pro's and cons etc, I'd be quite interested to learn about them.

[Sonitus]

Hmm, apparently we're not the only ones who are not well informed about ip-scramblers

[Tarakan]

I've never seen a working IP-scrambler but I've also never looked for one..
I'm not worried about it myself, because every IP-tracker I've seen leads to some place in the opposite side of the town I live in.

If Sweden's in trouble, not a pirate in the world is safe anymore...

[iiZESBiE]

basically an "IP scrambler" is just a proxy or a series of proxys, either payed or free but either are very slow and some sites dissalow the use of proxys obviously free would be devilishly slow and unreliable. oyu would be much better off getting a seedbox for torrenting as the files you download onto your seedbox arnt usually tracked (and if they are you dont get into trouble) and when downloading from the seedbox it just looks like youre downloading files from a legitimate FTP or HTTP server and ISPs dont bother tracking those as its too time consuming to moderate!

[Sonitus]

I've spoken to a couple of friends who have a bit more knowledge in the area. Apparently there is just no way to hide your real ip-address from the authorities, so it wouldn't matter if I'd have the best ip-scrambler there is, the authorities would simply have better equipment anyway.

I've been recommended to start using ftp instead. My knowledge of ftp-downloading is pretty minimal, but a friend will help me set up soon. He can probably help me with that seedbox-thing as well.

Anyway, thanks for your input guys! In any case I guess I'll just download as much movies and stuff as I can before the law takes effect

Cheers!

[Tarakan]

You can always move..

[bseos]

google "jap" or "tor"

[t43p]

http://www.torproject.org/
As far as anonymous web browsing goes this will work very well. Basically gives you a chain of proxies for your connection to go through. Latency and speed may sometimes be an issue.


If you want to download torrents though, not much luck here... try peer guardian to filter out government agencies.

[Jason]

How will the law affect you if you are downloading something from Rapidshare?

[iiZESBiE]

Jason, on Mar 23 2009, 09:41 PM, said:

How will the law affect you if you are downloading something from Rapidshare?

it wont, its very hard for ISPs to track direct downloads like rapidshare and megaupload. the only way they could do it was if rapidshare cooperated and gave out ips of downloaders, which they wont do unless threatened with legal action

[Sonitus]

iiZESBiE, on Mar 23 2009, 11:48 PM, said:

Jason, on Mar 23 2009, 09:41 PM, said:

How will the law affect you if you are downloading something from Rapidshare?

it wont, its very hard for ISPs to track direct downloads like rapidshare and megaupload. the only way they could do it was if rapidshare cooperated and gave out ips of downloaders, which they wont do unless threatened with legal action

I never thought of that.. Good to know!

[Jason]

iiZESBiE, on Mar 23 2009, 05:48 PM, said:

Jason, on Mar 23 2009, 09:41 PM, said:

How will the law affect you if you are downloading something from Rapidshare?

it wont, its very hard for ISPs to track direct downloads like rapidshare and megaupload. the only way they could do it was if rapidshare cooperated and gave out ips of downloaders, which they wont do unless threatened with legal action

I figured that would be the case but was not sure. It makes sense since RapidShare always co-operates and takes down the offending file, much like youtube does. I don't even think there are any copyright infringement cases being brought against RapidShare because of their co-operation as well. It almost seems like they are a "hole" in the system.

[iiZESBiE]

put it this way, how many customers do you think would leave if rapidshare was stricter than it is? ie no illegal stuff to be found ever on their servers? they would loose probly at least 80% of premium users

[iiZESBiE]

checkout this news article: http://www.rlstalk.n...?showtopic=3356
Sonitus this is pretty much what you would be wanting, its available soon

[Terrian]

To make things clear - we're talking about downloading and uploading warez here.. not just privacy.

Sonitus, on Mar 17 2009, 02:02 PM, said:

Howdy!

I'm new to this forum, but I've been checking rlslog daily for about a year or so.

Now to the topic:
In Sweden the so called IPRED law will soon be taking effect, I'm sure most of the users here know what that's all about.
Therefore I'm hunting for an ip-scrambler. I guess at least some users here will have good knowledge in that area

So, I'd appreciate any thought on this matter. Which one do you find is the best one?

Cheers,
Sonitus

Wait for the IPREDATOR (http://ipredator.se/) or use one of the already available anonymous VPN (ie: http://xerobank.com/, http://perfect-privacy.com/).
IPREDATOR - 5 euros per month is pretty nice, but we'll see if it's going to be good (=fast) or just another renamed relakks crap.
Other VPN services - You must choose wisely, because many of these VPN providers are not trustworthy and if threatened with legal action, they simply give away your IP+activity and you're fucked (hello blacklogic). Also, never, ever, ever use classic commercial "anonymizers" like Steganos etc., they KEEP logs and you're NOT shielded from anti-p2p.
Xerobank and Perfect-privacy are safe.
Free VPN services - Useless (slow or scam or both).

t43p, on Mar 22 2009, 09:53 PM, said:

http://www.torproject.org/
As far as anonymous web browsing goes this will work very well. Basically gives you a chain of proxies for your connection to go through. Latency and speed may sometimes be an issue.

If you want to download torrents though, not much luck here... try peer guardian to filter out government agencies.

Latency and speed are ALWAYS an issue with TOR (unless you're used to 56k modem speeds). Also, if you're not using SSL (https) and the TOR relay provider (which can easily be some anti-p2p organization) is a dirty bastard, he can easily see all the traffic (activity, logins, etc.) going through his relay, even though he won't be able to see your IP because of the TOR onion routing achitecture.

Tarakan, on Mar 20 2009, 07:21 PM, said:

I'm not worried about it myself, because every IP-tracker I've seen leads to some place in the opposite side of the town I live in.

If Sweden's in trouble, not a pirate in the world is safe anymore...

LMAO. IP-trackers obviously cannot pinpoint you (they cant look up past your IPS's network router or your ISP's internet/intranet barrier, if you want to call it that way), but that is absolutely irrelevant. Authorities and anti-p2p always go with an ip list to your ISP and they simply request the data. And believe me, they have NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER in getting them.

[migamax]

i am sad for the new law which will be uplied and i hope you find a way to get throw it

anyway here in african countries they care much about security and belive me they put a filter system that blocks porno web sites and even warez web site and your site is one of the site who got escaped of their system because their system depending on how much visitors that site can get and rlslog in my country is accessed only by let us say 10 visitors per month so it is still below the radar

so i am into the ip scrambler softwares for long long time

i used a programm called "ONSPEED" it has a UK server changes your IP into an IP in UK fast enough for my ADSL 1 MB

i also used anchor free "Hotspot Shield" which change you IP into an IP inside USA i used it for Paypal and it worked just fine because the sanction that my country ha been on the terror list

so i think extreme rules is nothing comparin what we are having here is a complete dictatorship that you are not free and you canot do what ever you want i download like 10 GB of movies per month and the internet company i got they keep asking me of what kind of stuff i am using all that traffic so i guess they know here you are using traffic but they have no idea what are you downloading exactly